Ukraine's PM Honcharuk wiretapping: Essence of the scandal

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According to the published video, Honcharuk badmouths President Volodymyr Zelensky, calls his understanding “primitive” and believes that he has “a fog in his head”
14:06, 17 January 2020

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Ukraine’s Prime Minister Oleksiy Honcharuk has become involved in a serious scandal. An audio recording of the prime minister’s communication with the financial block of the government and the National Bank (NBU) was posted on YouTube.

According to the video, Honcharuk badmouths President Volodymyr Zelensky, calls his understanding “primitive” and believes that he has “a fog in his head.”

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At the same time, the prime minister admits that he himself knows nothing about economic issues since he is a lawyer. Therefore, he invited the Ministry of Finance and the NBU to find out how to assure the president of the beneficial effects of strengthening the hryvnia.

He talks with Deputy Head of the National Bank Kateryna Rozhkova and Minister of Finance Oksana Markarova. The main question is how to explain Zelensky that strengthening the hryvnia is good.

From the words of Honcharuk, it follows that the president is concerned about this issue. And he connects it with the pyramid of bonds, Petro Poroshenko, and even head of the Ministry of Finance Oksana Markarova.

The prime minister denotes a problem for his interlocutors: we need to find some other explanation for Zelensky.

“Zelensky has a very primitive understanding of economic processes. More precisely, a simple understanding. He understands that there is a balance of payments. The balance of payments is very wrong, and the hryvnia has greatly strengthened,” Honcharuk said in a video.

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The prime minister suggests explaining to Zelensky that the hryvnia is being strengthened due to the fact that it was shaken before the 2019 elections. And now people have realized that there are no reasons to fear because they have a “strong president.” “He doesn’t have this in his head. We need to show and need to look very realistic,” said the prime minister.

After the recording of these conversations was published, he was accused of dismissive speaking of the president.

This is hardly the case (although the notes of a certain mentoring are obvious, especially in the light of a “primitive understanding”). Honcharuk, rather, is trying to figure out how to explain Zelensky a better understanding of exchange rate hikes.

Putting it even more primitively, Honcharuk asks Markarova and Rozhkova to explain the strengthening of the hryvnia in a simple language.

And in this sense, two points are interesting here.

  1. As it follows from the words of Honcharuk, Zelensky is concerned about the strengthening of the hryvnia and the creation of the bond certificates pyramid, and he asks the prime minister to explain the situation – both about the Rothschilds and about Poroshenko.
  2. Honcharuk is truly an absolute layman since he himself cannot explain the strengthening of hryvnia and has called Markarova and Rozhkova for help. And this means complete unsuitability for the Prime Minister.

Honcharuk’s opponents in the Servant of the People faction began to hint at his resignation.

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MP Maks Buzhansky declared that Honcharuk did not come to the fraction meeting. And his colleague Oleksandr Dubinsky specified that the prime minister was summoned to the President’s Office. Dubinsky then bluntly urged Honcharuk to write a letter of resignation.

“Oleksiy Goncharuk should be dismissed. But there are no legal grounds for this - the prime minister has one-year immunity.

Therefore, after insulting the president – it was done by ministers Milovanov and Markarova, with the participation of the head of the NBU, Smoliy and his deputy Rozhkova, he must write a statement.”

Later Buzhansky, Dubinsky and MP Kunitsky published a photo of how they arrived in the Cabinet of Ministers to demand Honcharuk’s resignation.

A according to, at a meeting of the Servant of the People faction, Dubinsky and Buzhansky tried to raise the question of the Prime Minister’s resignation, but less than 20 people supported this topic.

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