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In conversation with Biden, Poroshenko calls visa-free travel “something to sell to Ukrainian people”

Source : 112 Ukraine

The recording was made on November 16, 2016, when Donald Trump was elected President of the United States
13:10, 16 September 2020

Joseph Biden and Petro Poroshenko in Ukraine
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In a conversation with former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko made no secret of his desire to “sell” the visa-free regime to the Ukrainian people and said that the U.S. government “plays an enormous role” in establishing peace in Ukraine. It became known from the next series of recordings of conversations between Poroshenko and Biden which were published on September 16 by the MP Andriy Derkach.

The recording was made on November 16, 2016, when Donald Trump was elected President of the United States, as Strana agency reports.

Biden: Hey, Patro. It’s Joe. How are you?

Poroshenko: Very well indeed, as usual, when I hear your voice, my dear friend...

And if the president can also support us, not only with the means, but with vise free, something that we are trying to sell to the Ukrainian people. And still hoping that you can come, maybe on the 21st of November, on our anniversary of the Revolution of Dignity and that would be very big delivery..

Biden: With regard to my coming on the 21st. As I told you I can never come of the 21st. I am going to try to come immediately after , in early December. Here’s where I am now. Part of my answer to that depends on  what was your conversation with our president-elect. One of the things I’ve been doing... They are not making the..I'm not being critical, but the new administration has been very very slow on getting ready for transition. Quite frankly, like most of America, they can think they are going to win the election, so they did not have a forceful transition team. As a fact, the change the transition team. Transition is a very very delicate thing. It goes on from the Administration to Administration for the last 100 years and it requires the exchange of classified information. And people they put forward to be part of the transition, they have to be clear to do that, just as we have to be clear after the Bush administration etc. They have not done that, they’re trying to catch up and do it now. The reason I bother to tell you that is I have been somewhat limited on what I am able to tell their team about Ukraine.

The matter is that the income administration does not know a great deal about the situation so I am meeting with the Vice President-elect, who is the only one who has any foreign policy experience.

Poroshenko: You play an enormous role in bringing peace to my country, actually save my country. This is my real feeling.

Biden: This is my objective, but if I go beforehand, I am worried that they don’t know enough. They will think I am trying to gain them. They will think I am trying to put them in the corner. They will question my motive in going before they are fully briefed. I’m sure you understand that. You’re a good negotiator. That’s my thinking at the time and I see nothing to make me question my judgement about this being the right approach.

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