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Today we are talking to Andrew Wilson from London. He knows a lot about Ukraine, wrote several books on Donbas conflict. Andrew was in Kyiv during the Revolution of Dignity in 2014. He is a Senior Policy Fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations, and Professor in Ukrainian studies at the School of Slavonic and East European Studies at University College London.
Mr. Wilson, Petro Poroshenko is in the United States. What should we expect from this meeting with Trump. The fact that this meeting is happening before the meeting with Putin, do you think it shows the stronger position of Ukraine or Russia?
Neither. Might have been both. There’s dangers in Russian to Washington’s to be Trump’s best friend and British Prime Minister showed that very well. But in Ukraine’s case it does make sense. It’s a bit like the Klimkin fore-ran Lavrov. Trump is so m, so unpredictable that he is good to be in the same room with him. So simply being present in Washington is a good thing. Ukraine still has many good friends there, in both sides of the House. The only downside is that by creating this evenhandedness or by pushing for it, that cuts both ways. It’ll be much easier for Trump to meet with Putin having met with Poroshenko first. So ironically after Poroshenko, Trump meeting Putin is actually a little bit easier.
Do you think that the administration of trump does have some plan about Ukraine or not?
Depends who is in charge, the professionals. Well, yes. The key is getting endorsed by the President himself.
So, you were talking about Trump being unpredictable. Do you think that we are in the position we can offer our own plan or we should be ok with the plan we can be offered?
Well, trump is not just unpredictable, he is clearly unprofessional. He is totally disorganized. Both of the initiatives that you suggest actually are the way to actually deal with that kind of dysfunctional disorganization at the very top. And the initiative on Ukraine clearly needs to come within the professionals at the White House and the Security Council, State Department, in tandem with Ukraine as well. There are also rumors about what the outcome of these discussions might be. We don’t know, we discussed some of them. So we don’t yet see any concrete plan. Partly because there are no easy solutions. Even if this is all public, this is gonna be a very difficult and long term problem.
Is it possible that a new three-side format Ukraine – U.S. – Russia will appear?
No is the time to be asking these questions.